Never had a chance. It's in my jeans.Updated 1/24/18 3:30pm
December 23rd 2017 Back to In the Beginning
Well, Heegs have had a long and cozy relationship with cancer. We could trademark BRCA2, and my niece Erica, who is a patent attorney, will back me up. Any judge (especially our pricey Nevada judges) wouldn't fail (accept a bribe) to see our claim.
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My cousin Tom has been really digging up every birth, death, marriage certificate, that he can find. He's also a DNA genealogist and where he's been able to get the samples, has found BRCA2 gene in lots of family member's jeans.
Tom put together a chart a couple years ago showing the definites, maybes and unknowns.
Now that everyone above mentioned has passed, we can add:
Margaret (Mimi) Heeg- bladder and pancreatic. She beat bladder for 20 years before she passed.
Tom Zito - colon - beat it
John T. Heeg, Jr. - bladder...gonna beat it.
Poppy's grandfather Leopold Bauer died from liver cancer, metastatic to stomach.
Tom Z's explanation of the DNA he researches:
Here's a partial genetic test of the tumor...not reflective of what is in one of my normal cells necessarily:
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Well, Heegs have had a long and cozy relationship with cancer. We could trademark BRCA2, and my niece Erica, who is a patent attorney, will back me up. Any judge (especially our pricey Nevada judges) wouldn't fail (accept a bribe) to see our claim.
Nevada judicial candidate bribery allegation
My cousin Tom has been really digging up every birth, death, marriage certificate, that he can find. He's also a DNA genealogist and where he's been able to get the samples, has found BRCA2 gene in lots of family member's jeans.
Tom put together a chart a couple years ago showing the definites, maybes and unknowns.
Tom archived this email from my sister, Margaret Ann, to my cousin Pat, which indicates Thomas Edward Heeg also had bladder cancer. Edward Thomas Heeg had metastatic prostate cancer. If I remember correctly, Uncle Tom eventually had a colostomy, so I'm not sure if that was metastatic from bladder to bowel or what. Poppy's (Thomas M. Heeg, Jr.) spread from pancreas to lung.
"---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Margaret Weiner <margaretaw@gmail.com> Date: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 3:59 PM Subject: This weekend To: Pat Duffield <kenpatduff@hotmail.com>
Hi Pat, I thought I would send this list along for your health records. It certainly is a daunting list. Ed - I don't remember what type of cancer he beat
Tom - Bladder
John - Prostate
Chris - Pancreatic
Robbie - Prostate
Mimi - Bladder & Pancreatic
Poppy - Pancreatic
Pat - Ovarian
Gerry - Melanoma
Margaret - Basal cell & breast
It was wonderful seeing you this weekend. I still can't get over that we were in the same port at the same time. It would have been too strange to run into you in Ketchican, Alaska when we don't see each other often enough when we both are in New York. I hope to see you soon. Love, Margaret"
Now that everyone above mentioned has passed, we can add:
Margaret (Mimi) Heeg- bladder and pancreatic. She beat bladder for 20 years before she passed.
Tom Zito - colon - beat it
John T. Heeg, Jr. - bladder...gonna beat it.
Poppy's grandfather Leopold Bauer died from liver cancer, metastatic to stomach.
Can't catch a break, Thomas M. Heeg, Sr. added nephritis to the mix. Don't think there's a genetic component, but who knows. Just coincidental that I got hydronephrosis from the bladder cancer.
Tom Z's explanation of the DNA he researches:
The BRCA2 genetic defect is located primarily in a section of chromosome 13 (ch 13). Our genome contains 23 sets of chromosomes which are numbered 1-22 (called "autosomes" or atDNA), and the 23rd set are called sex chromosomes, which are designated as XX for women, and XY for men. So, in your case, you have one set of chromosomes 1-22 plus an X from your mother, and one set of chromosomes 1-22 from your father plus a Y. At conception the two strands of DNA (one from sperm, the other from egg) zip-up, like a zipper- one side inherited from the father, the other side inherited from the mother. I think of the sex chromosomes as the first set of teeth at the base of a zipper, the 22 pairs then zip together to become one human cell nucleus, which divides and grows into an embryo.
In the case of Leopold, if he is indeed the most distant BRCA2 carrier we've identified, there was likely a segment, located towards the beginning of the second half of his chromosome 13, which he passed down to his daughter Mary (along with a copy of his X chromosome, intact, which made her female). When Poppy was conceived, as luck would have it, his father passed that segment of ch 13 down to him (along with a copy of his Heeg Y chromosome, intact). Then Poppy (Thomas M. Heeg, Jr) passed that segment on to some or all of his children.
There is a third type of DNA we look at, which AncestryDNA does not sequence (decode), which is mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). The sperm cell contains only the DNA strand from the father, consisting of a random 50 percent from each of his autosomes (1-22), usually about 23-27% from each of his parents, and a copy of his X or his Y. The female's egg cell is larger and contains the nucleus (containing 50% of her atDNA 1-22, plus an X which is a random combination of her father and her mother's X chromosomes), and also contains mitochondria. Mitochondria has its own DNA and, since it exists in egg cells but not sperm cells, we always inherit mtDNA from our mothers. So mtDNA is another type of DNA, but it's usually not helpful for genealogy because it doesn't mix (recombination). mtDNA gets handed down from mother to child unchanged for tens of thousands of years- so it's interesting to study for ancient migration patterns of your maternal line. All mtDNA haplotypes can be traced back to sub-Saharan Africa where the first humans evidently came into existence.December 29, 2017
Here's a partial genetic test of the tumor...not reflective of what is in one of my normal cells necessarily:
Per Tom:
"That's interesting what he said about BRCA2 not being in the tumor. My understanding is that it is in the nucleus of most of our cells, and can be found in skin, saliva, blood, tissue, hair follicles, bone, etc. The company that does medical grade genetic testing for the BRCA1&2 mutation is Color. That test requires a physician's order but they have on-site physicians who can place the order for you.
The test is currently $99 https://www.color.com/product/brca-genetic-test and may or may not be covered by insurance.
My understanding is that AncestryDNA test does sequence the regions where the BRCA mutations can be found but they do not report on it. It is in the raw file that they provide to you for download. When you get your AncestryDNA raw file, there are a few things you can do with it, one of them is to upload it to a company called Prometheus which provides genetic health-related reports based on the raw sequence data found in the AncestryDNA zip file. They show several cancer-related mutations. with the caveat that the test is not "medical grade" since the main purpose is genealogical and they do not provide physician counseling (like color dot com does).
So when a Prometheus report shows potential genetic health concerns, they recommend following up with a physician who, if they agree with the concern, will order the color dot com test. Color owns the intellectual property rights to medical lab testing and diagnosis of BRCA 1 and 2 mutations, which is why all the "medical grade" tests are sent out to them.
January 11, 2018
Getting ready for my genetic testing and counseling and having to list all the Heegs, Honer's, and Poniard's who fell victim to some cancer is a deeply reflective experience.
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Current Age
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Age at Death
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Ever had cancer
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Cancer type
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Age at cancer diagnosis
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Notes/Other causes of death
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Mother – Margaret St Clare Honer
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62
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No
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Alzheimers
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Father – John Thomas Heeg, Sr
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83
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Yes
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Prostate
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82
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Mother’s Mother – Margaret Delaney
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42
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No
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Tuberculosis
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Mother’s Father – Louis William Honer, Jr
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68
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Yes
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Throat
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64
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Father’s Mother – Marie Bischoff
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104
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No
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Old Age
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Father’s Father – Thomas Michael Heeg
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86
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Yes
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Pancreatic
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86
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Sister – Margaret Ann Heeg Weiner
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66
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Yes
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Breast, basel cell
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61
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Nephew – Matthew Weiner
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38
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No
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Marfan’s Syndrome
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Daughter – Lisa Danielle Heeg Zia
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35
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No
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Son – Andrew Tyler Heeg
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30
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No
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Mother’s Brother – Louis William Honer, III
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75
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No
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Stroke
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Mother’s Brother – John Ponard Honer
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76
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Yes
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Throat
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Father’s Brother – Edward Thomas Heeg
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75
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Yes
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Prostate
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Father’s Brother – Thomas Edward Heeg
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70
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Yes
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Bowel, bladder
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Father’s Brother – Christian Thomas Heeg
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70
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Yes
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Pancreatic
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Father’s Brother – Robert Joseph Heeg
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93
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Yes
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Prostate
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60-70
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Old age
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Father’s Brother – Joseph Thomas Heeg
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18
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No
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Shellfire WWII
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Father’s Sister – Margaret Marie Heeg
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80
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Yes
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Bladder, Pancreatic
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55, 80
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Father, Cousin – Thomas Zito
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49
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Yes
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Bowel
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48
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BRCA2 mutation
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Father, Cousin – Lorraine Heeg Zito
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73
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No
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Abnormal lumps, non malignant removed from breasts, BRCA2 mutation
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Father, Cousin Patricia Ann Heeg Duffield
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70
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Yes
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Ovarian
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Father, Cousin Christine Heeg
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69
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No
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Father, Cousin Geraldine Heeg
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50
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Yes
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Melanoma
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45
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Father, Cousin Jane Heeg Conrad
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60
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No
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Stroke
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Father, Cousin Diane Heeg
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27
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No
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Overdose
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Father, Cousin Robert Joseph Heeg
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63
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No
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Father’s Great grandfather Leopold Bauer
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68
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Yes
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Liver and Stomach
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Father’s Great Uncle – Charles Heeg, Sr
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65
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Yes
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Lung
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Father’s cousin, Charles Heeg, Jr
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67
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Yes
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Prostate
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62
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Father’s cousin, Robyn Heeg Bell
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61
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No
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Negative for BRCA2
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Father’s uncle, John Heeg
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52
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Yes
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Leukemia
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Mother’s aunt, Ellen Honer Wolf
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80
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Yes
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Breast
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40-55?
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Mother’s aunt, Irene Honer Darby
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71
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Yes
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Bone?
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Had Lupus, was bedridden, cancer was discovered when pelvis broke and
cancer found all over
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Mother’s cousin, Arlyne Honer
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70
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Yes
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Breast
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Mother’s cousin, Dorothy Darby Larkin
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62
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Yes
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Lung
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54
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Two bouts
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Mother’s cousin, Julia Poniard
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old
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Yes
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Breast
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Mother’s cousin, Nora Poniard
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old
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Yes
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Breast
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Mother’s cousin, Anthony Poniard
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53
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Yes
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Lung, Adrenal, Brain
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53
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Mother’s cousin, Michael Poniard
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56
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Yes
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Leukemia
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53
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Mother’s great grandmother Bridget Eagle Ponard
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61
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Yes
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Uterine cancer
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January 24th, 2018 3:30pm
Big thanks to Ann Poniard regarding the victims in the Michael Poniard branch of the family still in Galway, Ireland. Before she passed so tragically, Rita Lindley Ham Corbin had sent me a bunch of documents related to the Ponards that I'd forgotten about. Among them was Bridget Eagle Ponard's death certificate which earns her a place on the list.
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